text: the thing is, I mean, you know, he was a forthright person. I mean, it's, it's not like, you know, punch ಮಾಡ್ಬೇಕು ಅಂದ್ರೆ ಒಂದು glove, velvet glove ಹಾಕೊಂಡು punch ಮಾಡ್ತೀನಿ ಹಂಗಿಲ್ಲ. He was, he meant business.